Times of Turmoil -
and Carmen's complaints

In 1641 the Carmen went to Parliament, seeking power over their affairs; their bills went to Committee - who forgot it.

In 1649 the Carmen were back in print and in the Commons with 'The Carmens Remonstrance or a reply to the false and scurrilous Papers of the Woodmongers' - the House ruled for the Carmen.

In 1660 times were even worse and the unthinkable happened - Carmen joined the Woodmongers in common cause. Come the restoration, a Woodmonger Lord Mayor confirmed Woodmonger control - prices rose, the King complained and the Carmen went back to Christ's Hospital.