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Thinking ahead
Talking aloud
Design for movement


Talking aloud - Carmen/Fuellers' debate

In November 2002 the Company, together with the Worshipful Company of Fuellers, launched the first national transport debate.

'This house believes that Cars Kill Cities' was put by ex-Minister for Transport, past Road Haulage Association Director General and London transport advisor Steve Norris, supported by John Adams, Professor of Geography at University College London.

Carmen Steve Norris
Carman Steve Norris

The motion was opposed by Professor Garel Rhys of Cardiff University, supported by M. Peter Hall, Daily Telegraph motoring editor. The debate was moderated by Sir Alistair Moreton.

The Great Debate attracted some 260 Liverymen, Fellows of the RSA, invited experts and commentators and transport design students. The Times published a page of questions and answers featuring Steve Norris and the RSA carries a full transcript.

In 2004 the Company also mounted a seminar, Urban Flow, at Lacon House.

Carman Professor Emeritus Tony Ridley chaired a discussion opened by Greater London Group director Tony Travers and Corporation transport chief Joe Weiss, who considered Gridlock London.

First plc director Leon Daniels and Road Haulage Association CE Roger King, both Carmen, looked at psv and freight problems and Sir Patrick Brown considered political and economic costs and imperatives.

Lectures and debates continue the Carmen's policy to explore solutions to one of society's most pressing needs - urban mobility.